In fact, they create needless safety and training issues. The latest content straight to your inbox plus an automatic entry to each of our monthly giveaways! Pretty broad comment. I pull the hammer full back and then rotate the switch. He specified hammer down carry. The SIG P226/229 does not have a safety, it is DA/SA with a decocker only. You make the assertion you defend the claim. I transitioned to semi pistols from revolvers in 1986 when I got a Sig P-226. Id say it makes the gun safer because you dont have to pull the trigger and then put the hammer down with your thumb when you want it decocked. Only people who have a rudimentary understanding call it a Radom. Ride the hammer as well. Just the good shooters, effective shooters, and most instructors. Decock/safety works fine on my pistol, but I still ride the hammer down when switching the lever from fire to safe/decock. My Jericho has a decocker/safety lever that doesnt bother me in the least. Since Im left handed, I always used my right (support) hand to dexxxx. On most designs, leaving the lever engaged results in a dead (i.e., non-functional) trigger. And to each his own. Always do it that way. As I said above, if youre good with a DA/SA, youll be great with a quality striker-fired pistol. I likes it that way. If it does, I want it to be as easy and accurately perforated as possible.
Decocking Your Pistol: The Safe and Proper Way The writer of this article is a complete moron. . You can unsubscribe at any time by replying STOP or clicking 3 methods for decocking a CZ / Tanfoglio pistol with a manual safety - YouTube 0:00 / 2:12 3 methods for decocking a CZ / Tanfoglio pistol with a manual safety TheHumbleMarksman 121K. The gun is carried with the hammer down. I'm not sure if that's great long term without a flag or dummy round in place. He's the author of more than a dozen books and hundreds of articles and has extensive experience as a law enforcement officer, competitive shooter and expert witness. The only problem Ive had with it is a chipped extractor, twice, but it doesnt affect it. I have both a 1911 and a Hi Power and neither are double action. Put aside all the fancy moves you may have seen in movies and let's dive in! The glock trigger is close to my Sig in SA mode, yet the Glock has no form of safety at all! Truly were living in a clown world society.
C. Safely unload the pistol then utilize the slide lock or hammer blocking method. Any advice on safety would be greatly appreciated. Mine was made in Dec. 2010 according to the S/N. I have had a 3913tsw since the early 90s. Have to insert a short story here, Question is more around why would you want to carry a 1911 decocked chambered when its not really the design. With the DC you only have to remember to De-Cock when you are finish for the Day. I took a course once from an ex-cop who said he always carried a 1911 style with the chamber empty and the hammer down (Is that Israeli carry?) Sorry, Im kinda techno-challenged and didnt realize that I could post responses here! I love my old Israeli police trade-in Jericho that is marked IMI rather than IWI. These include 1911-style guns, a few other rarer designs, the occasional revolver and those we refer to as de-cocker systems. Im used to external-hammer pistols with external safeties that can be decocked easily, but of course thats not possible with this pistol. I always practices sweeping the lever up as I would draw. My fed job took me to SIG 228s and then a 220 with a brief moment again with a Springfield Armory Professional 1911. The 2022 in SA has a short distance then it is ready to squeeze another round off with ease. A decocked p226, holstered with thumb on hammer seems safer than a glock. Lovely gun for the transition. Decades of (self) training left me with a revolver where I fired a couple shots (normally SA because it is FUN!) It depends on the design. Now I have a Taurus Beretta 92 clone that has a frame mounted safety like a 1911. Just because you or people around you call it something else does not make you or them right. Im talking of using the cops gun against whoever shot the cop and may still be shooting at people. It is as simple as that. If all you want is a heavier trigger pull to make negligent discharges less likely, get a Glock and install a NY-1 or NY-2 connector, and youre good to go. Other thumb on spur. Could I make do with a DA/SA gun? OK, but there is a tool for every purpose, and for our limited exposure to pistols, it is a fine design. 35 Vis is captioned as Beretta 92F, hammer down, trigger forward.. Oh, well. DA/SA cocked and unlocked is just like a Glock. I *think* thats because of the magazine well requiring linkage between the trigger and the sear which the revolver does not require, like the action has to be telegraphed instead of direct. These odd creatures exist. My brother in law wants to gift me a colt mustang .380. and the initials of the designers with the i being the Poilish word for and. Use the palm of your non-firing hand to pull the slide back and release it to chamber a round. This article is featured in
took me a while to trust it. I own(ed) multiple Beretta Px4s for 10 years and many 92s for over 30 years- no malfunctions with the exceptions of a handful from bad re-loads out of about 10,000 rounds. Back in the day you were responsible for yourself. Beretta always gave me problems. Going to move it up next to wanker rails. Nah, Ill just leave that one here. Whether you own one or not, whether you find de-cockers a PITA or a boon to your ballistics, a true operator will possess the necessary skills to run the gun. I started with a Beretta 92 and use PX4s now. They are not my go-to guns today.
To decock a pistol safely and easily you should If someone were to make your argument with regards to the Second Amendment, youd have your panties in a bunch. If theyd have bought a M&P or Glock right out of the gate, they wouldnt be singing the (highly limited) praises of this out-of-date design. Cause you never know . Be sure to remain people up-to-date similar to this. Why have light trigger pulls at all then for guns that are meant for self defense? I have no dog in this fight; decockers arent the best thing created for a gun, but theyre far from the worst. I already voided the lifetime warranty by stripping the slide and polishing it.
How To Carry a DA/SA Pistol - Concealed Carry Setup Advantages striker fired carry) then thats pretty simple too. This type of technology to protect your marriage. Just a bit too short I suppose. It was never intended to be carried that way at all times. Both the 1911 and Hi Power are single action not double action. I agree with you (said earlier) that they need to pick a method and stick with it. This answer has been confirmed as correct and helpful. Is the 1911 pistol design inherently dangerous? And putting in a Wolff spring has made the DA relatively light. The hammer and the trigger move forward at the same time, and the same function that prevents the gun from discharging if the hammer is struck keeps the hammer from hitting the firing pin. Fact is, you have the four rules, and you have training. I grew up shooting 1911s, then used them on active duty till the M9 came on line. To help you out more, follow these steps to help you clear and store a pistol more carefully: To do this, release the magazine and slide the chamber back to pop the bullet out from the ejection port. Whether it's your 9mm SD VE or an M&P 380 Shield, very often, new gun owners get irresponsible with their brand-new handguns. De-cocker style guns were common during the 70s, 80s, and 90s. I do understand the hoi-ploi of the pistol world disliking the mechanism and operation, as being unnecessarily complex, heavy pull, and maybe inelegant. De-cocking lever is down, requiring manual movement up to re-enable the pistol. Plus, the ability to ride the hammer when reholstering is very valuable to prevent negligent discharges if something is caught on your trigger. Different but again, train what you carry, no? Its my favorite 9, above even my S&W 659, and Im a S&W guy. A glock will never have a heavy trigger pull on the first round and lighter thereafter and that is what I was talking about. I always carry hammer-down when concealed carrying. Sig Sauer P 226 X-Five Allround 9mm luger, is perfect for me, Im a southpaw. I just dont see the hate. Transition to new platform was a cinch, jack round in chamber press lever down, holster, no safety! There are also those who want the fallen cops pistol to be unusable or at least difficult for anyone else. Fast forward my Nephew said I should try the SIG as that is what he used in the service! by Mike V. | Concealed Carry, General EDC. Mostly it depends on the Person learning. There are only 3 controls - the mag release, the slide/slide stop and the trigger. If there's a key to doing this, it's doing so slowly and carefully. Depends on the model, but not all decocker equipped pistols require extra steps or anything to get wrong during a DGU. In many cases, a pistol manufacturer will offer a variety of systems available on the same platform. Im not talking of using the cops gun against him. tried it, liked i,t bought it in .40 cal. Im saying this safety has nothing to do with manual safeties, or with decockers. As a general rule I would say that (as they have done forever) southpaws will simply have to work out a reasonably efficient method if they are forced to use a RH dexxxx gun. JER (Joint Ethics Regulations), para. Agreed. He never made the rank of full Colonel but rather Lt. A loaded Glock is a fun range toy, carrying one strikes me as an invitation to disaster. Try this on your toy by holding the loaded gun in your left hand, pointed in a safe direction, and then flicking your right trigger finger across the trigger until the hammer falls. I have not tried that on my 1911s, probably should. Come back and talk to me after youve spent 2-3 decades training folks how to use pistols, especially DA/SA autopistols with decockers. I await your list of trainers (with links, please), so I can educate myself on this new trend of cocked-and-unlocked carry. Block Certain GamesGames are most infected operating systems. Great gun! Regardless of which condition you choose to carry your handgun, being able to lower the hammer safely makes handling any firearm easier. Yeah well I dont give a hoot what the author says. The procedure I would use for your CZ is 1)place support hand thumb in between hammer and firing pin, 2) pull trigger to release hammer, 3) hammer falls or is guided gently onto your thumb, 4) release trigger (this engages the firing pin block), 5) slowly pull thumb out gently setting hammer onto the half cock position. Below are several options and methods to safely decock a pistol. anyone who cant drive a stick cant drive the gun. my Beretta 8045 the decocker has been worked till it is as easy as a normal manual safety. I reside in California.
Firearms Flashcards | Quizlet - When firing is complete, the pistol needs to be "de-cocked" in order to render it relatively safe before holstering. Scan this QR code to download the app now. Safety with any firearm resides between the ears, not due to any safety system or the lack thereof. Having a gun you can disengage and yet still fire without moving the slide is bad? Even the most reliable and least detectable. Decocking safeties (like on the 92-series and the Walther PP/PPK) are whatever, theyre not my cup of tea but I see why some people like them.
The Truth About Pistol De-Cockers Lower Hammer. A lightweight firing pin, and/or heavier firing pin spring, make the 1911 inherently drop safe. If there is a common pistol type, revolver, semi auto plastic striker fired or all steel hammer fired, etc. This is generally deemed less safe because (A) it requires slow and awkward cocking of that rear-mounted hammer, a task perhaps better suited to an orangutans paw than the human thumb, and (B) it requires pulling the trigger of a loaded gun to safely lower the hammer, which can easily result in a slip and an unintended discharge. The Viz is far from the first. Wasting time pulling the trigger on a round that is not likely to fire is not solving your problem that the pistol was pulled to solve. and now, two days later ive had a cz vz52 follow me home. Ill admit the first time I dropped the hammer on a live round in my Beretta was spooky for a former 1911 guy! If I were limited to only owning and carrying one gun, it would be a Sig P226. ^THIS SO MUCH! is a thing for a very good reason. Decockers dont allow you to have a heavier trigger pull; they FORCE you to have it, due to the geometry and energy required to cock and then release the hammer only using the trigger. They cover all or nearly all of the gun. Owning a firearm is one thing, but proper usage and maintenance is a whole different ball game. Take a look at the holsters they actually used not the Hollywood quick draw versions. the sig p22x decocker is a positive release you have control of the hammer through the decock lever the whole time . COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Shoot what you want. then let the hammer down by putting my thumb on the hammer and pulling the trigger. Point the revolver in the safest direction-and keep it there throughout the procedure-with your trigger finger resting on the frame of the gun, away from the trigger and trigger guard; 2. Re: SP-01 and level of safety when decocking the hammer: The decocking version is the safest. In fact, it is actually advantageous when there is a struggle over the gun. No you do not decock the pistol.
How To Decock A Pistol Safely & Easily - Release & Ride The Hammer At that point, I realized that my pistol in decock could never do that. The decocker is safer than letting the hammer down on a loaded chamber on a wheel gun. Pistol pros know just how important it is to discharge their pistols safely. I learned to shoot with DA/SA weapons and spent time in the NAVY shooting with SEALS who all carried Sigs with decockers, your silly opinions are meaningless and you have no business teaching anyone how to handle a firearm. Show us on the doll where the decocker touched you. DA/SA decocker pistols are perfectly easy to use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYvAxLX6OzE. Similar to the first time I shot a semi auto shotgun and couldnt figure out how to pump it after I missed a clay. Between the DA trigger pull and having proper holsters that cover the trigger and trigger guard, the safety becomes an unnecessary redundancy. I always carry decocked with safety off so it is just like your normal DA/SA. Wouldnt trade any of them for some plastic bullshit pistol. Ive seen M9 users out shoot Glock boys easily and Smith 1st Gen guys leave folks in their wake with mouths slack. There isnt a striker fired trigger made that can match single action pull on my P226 and still be safe enough to carry. Im not sure if thats great long term without a flag or dummy round in place. How do you de-cock a pistol. Various techniques to do it safely. Sure doesnt apply to *MY* Glock! TDA guns are designed to be safer carry guns. At that time I rotate the dexxxxer and carry the gun in that condition. Only in SEA did we load with six. The last two are de-cocker models that I can bring into battery just as quickly as a tupperware gun, but it is more accurate, has less perceived recoil, and is less ammo sensitive than most striker fired pistols. But if you find yourself needing to take a well aimed shot at 40 yards, the light crisp single action pull is just a thumb stroke away. @ Big Mickey I agree. Complete unsubstantiated assertion. DA on first round and SA after is pretty simple. Nam risus ante, dapibus a molestie consequat, ultrices ac magna. Archived post. They all have their pros and cons. In this state, the trigger is dead., 3. There have been cases of people shooting themselves when holstering their pistol because their finger or some foreign object hit the trigger as the gun was going into the scabbard. Most early autoloaders were not drop safe with a round in the chamber including the 1911 safety engaged or not. A glock doesnt allow you to do very much really except keep it in a cocked and unlocked state which is what a glock is a gun with a SA trigger pull and no external safety. If you are already great with the DA/SA, youll be absolutely SUPERB with the other types (again, with the same practice). Drop the mag, eject the round. Use of Military Title by Retirees or Reserves. Decocker-equipped pistols are found worldwide in police and security service. If running a decocker is tough to learn and put into practice, you might re-think armed self defense and carry a baseball bat. The first pull will be stiffer, but thatwont matter much in a fight for your life scenario, and its only heavy on the first shot. Just got it and have not worked much with it. Take alot of what he said with a decent dose of salt. He wrote that all the negligent/accidental discharges he was aware of had taken place with the Glocks. Right, I was thinking of the PP/PPK too. Lets count the fallacies. Do not point a pistol at anything you don't intend to shoot.